Matt Bissonnette sat down with Andy Stumph on the Cleared Hot podcast. Two former SEALs, one long overdue conversation. They cover the night in Abbottabad, what actually happened on the third floor, and the decade that followed the publication of No Easy Day: The DOJ investigations, the payment plan, the isolation from the community, and the road back. Watch the full episode below.
Cleared Hot is hosted by Andy Stumpf, a retired Navy SEAL, author, and record-holding wingsuit pilot. In this episode, Andy and Matt go deep on:
– Growing up in a remote Alaskan village and the path to SEAL Team 6
– Fourteen years in the Navy and thirteen consecutive combat deployments
– The bin Laden raid: the third floor, the debrief, and why competing accounts don’t hold up
– The fallout from No Easy Day — the DOJ investigations, forfeited royalties, and a 15-year payment plan
– The personal cost: isolation, the lowest point, and what pulled him through
– Life now — faith, family, raising Wagyu cattle, and why No Easy Way is self-published
No Easy Way: A Navy SEAL’s
Journey of Faith is Matt Bissonnette’s first book published under his own name
— and his first where the story is fully his to tell. It’s the account of what came after No Easy Day: the legal battle, the years of silence, and the faith that carried him through. Hardcover, in stock, shipping now from MattBissonnette.com.
The full episode is embedded above and also available on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts.
Yes. The book shipped July 14, 2026 and is in stock. Orders ship direct from our warehouse in Charlotte, NC.
Yes. Matt wrote No Easy Day and No Hero under the pen name Mark Owen. No Easy Way is his first book under his own name.
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